Discussion:
Best Way To Hear CDs
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c***@optonline.net
2018-08-22 12:12:33 UTC
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My wife just got a new civic, and was very disappointed that it didn't
come with a CD player, as she had with her previous 2005.

What's the best way to have the CDs added to some device for playing
through the car's audio ?

What are other options for music.
She doesn't have any special phone etc.
Dave
2018-08-22 12:48:53 UTC
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If the audio unit has a USB input, you can rips hundreds of CDs to a USB stick and play from that. If your computer does not have an optical disk drive, outboard onse to plug into a USB port are pretty cheap, under $20, including DVD capability.
c***@optonline.net
2018-08-22 18:15:25 UTC
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Thanks for response Dave.

Adio unit in the car has an USB connection.

DeskTop has optical drive and free USB ports.

Can you recommend an "USB stick" ? Nothing too elaborate or big
needed.
oldtimer
2018-08-22 20:24:40 UTC
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Post by c***@optonline.net
Thanks for response Dave.
Adio unit in the car has an USB connection.
DeskTop has optical drive and free USB ports.
Can you recommend an "USB stick" ? Nothing too elaborate or big
needed.
go to Amazon and type in USB memory stick. You will be presented with
all shapes and sizes. Get enough memory to contain all your cds.
Lynn McGuire
2018-08-23 16:29:03 UTC
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Post by oldtimer
Post by c***@optonline.net
Thanks for response Dave.
Adio unit in the car has an USB connection.
DeskTop has optical drive and free USB ports.
Can you recommend an "USB stick" ? Nothing too elaborate or big
needed.
go to Amazon and type in USB memory stick. You will be presented with
all shapes and sizes. Get enough memory to contain all your cds.
Why would you not rip an album to a single usb drive ? In other words,
a couple of hundred usb drives, one per album.

Lynn
oldtimer
2018-08-23 17:17:08 UTC
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Post by oldtimer
Post by c***@optonline.net
Thanks for response Dave.
Adio unit in the car has an USB connection.
DeskTop has optical drive and free USB ports.
Can you recommend an "USB stick" ? Nothing too elaborate or big
needed.
go to Amazon and type in USB memory stick. You will be presented with
all shapes and sizes. Get enough memory to contain all your cds.
Why would you not rip an album to a single usb drive ?  In other words,
a couple of hundred usb drives, one per album.
Lynn
I am not sure that anyone suggested a single usb stick per album. That
sounds a bit crazy. I have 2000 of my favourite songs on a single memory
chip for my car.
LakeGator
2018-08-23 17:36:09 UTC
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Post by oldtimer
Post by oldtimer
Post by c***@optonline.net
Thanks for response Dave.
Adio unit in the car has an USB connection.
DeskTop has optical drive and free USB ports.
Can you recommend an "USB stick" ? Nothing too elaborate or big
needed.
go to Amazon and type in USB memory stick. You will be presented with
all shapes and sizes. Get enough memory to contain all your cds.
Why would you not rip an album to a single usb drive ?  In other words,
a couple of hundred usb drives, one per album.
Lynn
I am not sure that anyone suggested a single usb stick per album. That
sounds a bit crazy. I have 2000 of my favourite songs on a single memory
chip for my car.
This is reasonable and what I do, as well. That, of course, makes it the reasonable thing. ;-)

The reason for my reply is to point out that the Honda radios have limits about how many folders and files are supported. These limits are not well documented and seem to be different for each configuration and model year. I have read that Honda is actually making good entertainment systems now so, hopefully, the issue doesn't exist in the new models.

I encountered the limit when I created a stick with 1,500 or so files in one folder. The radio would select a file beyond the limit and display "File unplayable" until I removed and reinserted the stick. I went back to a folder per artist and the issue seems resolved. This was in my 2012 Accord EX-L.

USB music is, by far, the best way forward right now. The days of mechanically reproduced music are very few.
Lynn McGuire
2018-08-24 01:30:44 UTC
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Post by LakeGator
Post by oldtimer
Post by oldtimer
Post by c***@optonline.net
Thanks for response Dave.
Adio unit in the car has an USB connection.
DeskTop has optical drive and free USB ports.
Can you recommend an "USB stick" ? Nothing too elaborate or big
needed.
go to Amazon and type in USB memory stick. You will be presented with
all shapes and sizes. Get enough memory to contain all your cds.
Why would you not rip an album to a single usb drive ?  In other words,
a couple of hundred usb drives, one per album.
Lynn
I am not sure that anyone suggested a single usb stick per album. That
sounds a bit crazy. I have 2000 of my favourite songs on a single memory
chip for my car.
This is reasonable and what I do, as well. That, of course, makes it the reasonable thing. ;-)
The reason for my reply is to point out that the Honda radios have limits about how many folders and files are supported. These limits are not well documented and seem to be different for each configuration and model year. I have read that Honda is actually making good entertainment systems now so, hopefully, the issue doesn't exist in the new models.
I encountered the limit when I created a stick with 1,500 or so files in one folder. The radio would select a file beyond the limit and display "File unplayable" until I removed and reinserted the stick. I went back to a folder per artist and the issue seems resolved. This was in my 2012 Accord EX-L.
USB music is, by far, the best way forward right now. The days of mechanically reproduced music are very few.
Can you put artist / album / song in the usb ?

What do you use to rip the songs from the cd ?

Thanks,
Lynn
Charlie Roberts
2018-08-24 15:53:11 UTC
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 20:30:44 -0500, Lynn McGuire
Post by Lynn McGuire
Can you put artist / album / song in the usb ?
What do you use to rip the songs from the cd ?
Thanks,
Lynn
Firstly, a CD is about 700 MB. USB flash drives of
128 GB are available for~ $ 25. For example, see

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hard-drives/usb-flash-drives/abcat0504010.c?id=abcat0504010&intl=nosplash

(Sorry, I avoid/boycott Amazon, but you will find them
there, too ... and in a lot of other places. You can even
find them in grocery and drug stores where I live, though
not the very high capacity ones). So, putting one CD on
a drive is 1) anenormous waste of storage, 2) an enormous
waste of money and 3) an enormously cumbersome
way of doing things. Even if you allocate 1 GB
per CD, you can fit more than 100 CDs on one of
these drives!!

Secondly, ripping depends of what OS you use. I
know nothing about Macs, but on Windows 7,
Windows Media Player worked very well. I moved
to Windows 10 last week and have not fully gotten
used to the media things. But, one that I also like and
use is FreeRIP:

http://www.freerip.com/

It works well. You can input track names, etc. But
I have not idea if the Honda display will show them.
(I still use real CDs as I have a 2013 model and it has
a CD player. Lucky!)

There is a question of formats, though. If do not like
MP3 (due to the lossy compression) you can use
the WAV format. But, an automobile is too noisy
(ok, this is a Honda NG, not a Tesla one!) an environment
to truly appreicate the full richness of a CD. MP3 will do
just fine on most cars.
Dave Garrett
2018-08-25 01:06:44 UTC
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Post by Charlie Roberts
There is a question of formats, though. If do not like
MP3 (due to the lossy compression) you can use
the WAV format. But, an automobile is too noisy
(ok, this is a Honda NG, not a Tesla one!) an environment
to truly appreicate the full richness of a CD. MP3 will do
just fine on most cars.
This is true so long as higher bitrates are used when ripping to mp3 -
256 is probably OK for cars, 320 if you want something that for most
people is difficult to distinguish from a CD even under optimum
listening conditions. With the lower bitrates you are probably going to
hear the difference even in the noisy environment of a car.
--
Dave
c***@optonline.net
2018-08-24 14:25:58 UTC
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Thanks for all responses and good info.

Suppose my external drive is connectable in the car via USB, then what
form does the material have to be in, to be accessed and played
through the car's system ?

e.g.(s) - Files : Track**.cda or ****.mp3 ?
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